Scene 1

Antonio/Jess… Nurse says that personal items recovered. Nurse asks Jess if she wants to hang on to wedding ring.

Rodi’s. Tate and Adriana. She thanks him for what he did at the hospital. Thalia is spying on them.

Dorian/Clint. Dorian says, “ I know it’s hard to believe but it’s true.” Clint asks, “Where did you hear this?” She says, “David.” She says that she figured it out when she went to visit him that Asa offered him $10 mill to kill Spencer. Clint says, David is a liar. Dorian says David is "honesty challenged," but in this case Dorian says, David is telling the truth.

John/David at Statesville prison. John asks if he’s heard the expression. “Do the crime do the time. He adds, “Why do the time if you didn’t do the crime?”

Marty/Miles- Miles wants to have sex since it is their wedding night.

Scene 2

Adriana gets call from Rex; doesn’t answer but is defensive about Rex when Tate says things about him. Thalia interrupts and asks for an autograph for her nephew.

Clint/Dorian. He asks, “How long have you known?” He closes the doors. Dorian says, “Not that long.” Clint asks, “He just offered it up?” Dorian says that she had her suspicions all along and she guessed Asa. Clint is still doubtful. Dorian tries to reason with him and says that David , who was out of the country, came back and confessed to the murder for a reason. Clint says that he has no illusions about his father, especially since Spencer was a threat to the family. Dorian says that Spencer was a threat to all of the people of Llanview and Asa wasn’t the only who wanted him dead. Clint says that makes Asa a murderer. Dorian says that technically that’s not true because someone else murdered him and it wasn’t David. He wants to know who else she told. Dorian tells him that she went to see John but that she left out the part about Asa. Clint asks are you willing to keep it a secret. She says that she isn’t hiding evidence and the only secret that matters is who really did kill him.

Marty/Miles… Miles is trying to get her to relax. Marty says that she will never have sex with him.

David/John …” What moron would go to prison for a crime he didn’t commit?,” David asks. John wants to know how much he got paid for murdering Spencer. John tells him that a bird whispered it in his ears. David says everyone knows that a yellow bellied sapsucker lies. John says that he didn’t buy the confession. He tells him that he knows that he is lying and he knows a way to get the truth out of him.

Scene 3
Antonio has the ring. The nurse leaves. Nash is outside the door, asks how Antonio is doing, when he’ll be released. Nurse says that having a loved one around speeds up the recovery. Jess tells Antonio that she loves him. Nash comes in and rolls her out in her wheelchair.

Dorian/Clint. Clint says there is something he doesn’t understand. He wants to know why Dorian isn’t going to the police with the part about Asa. Dorian says that it was an unrealized plot. Clint wants to know why she came to him. She says that she didn’t want him to find out that she knew and didn’t tell him. Clint says she also didn’t want when the the truth came out for him to believe that she ratted out his father. He asks if David gave her a cut of the money. Dorian is insulted and says that she told him not out of self interest but to help him.

John/David. John wants to know who paid him. David is getting tripped up and John says that he will maybe take a trip to the “hole,” like in Morocco. David cracks and says that he didn’t do it.

Marty/Miles. Still pressuring her and she says that she was blackmailed. He says that he knows how to pleasure a woman. She asks, “What are you going to do rape me?”

Scene 4
Thalia/Adriana/Tate. Thalia wants to know of a good camp for her nephew? She asks where he went to camp in high school and Tate says, “Cut the crap! You been talking to Rex?”

Nash/Jessica…. Nash wants to know how she’s doing. She says that for a moment she thought that Antonio didn’t hate her but it’s wishful thinking. Nash says that he wished that it would be easier, too and that he wouldn’t feel guilty with everything out in the open. Nash says that everything is OK but she is still married to Antonio.

Marty/Miles. Marty asks if he is going to call John if she doesn’t have sex. (offers him the phone).

John/David. David curses Dorian. David offers, “How would Marty know he didn’t kill Spencer unless she did it?”

Dorian/Clint. Dorian says that she doesn’t give a damn about Asa and she says that she doesn’t want to send his father to jail for Spencer’s murder. Clint says that he is going to call Bo. Dorian says that Asa won’t’ survive prison. Dorian tries to reason with Clint, who is upset with Asa, says that Asa is his father. She asks how the family would react to the news and says that Asa would never forgive him. Dorian says that he loves Asa and he doesn’t have much time left. She asks if this is how he wants to spend the remaining time he has with his father.

John/David. Flashback of Marty’s visit. John asks if Marty actually confessed. David said that she didn’t’ have to. John says that he is going to get him out and to keep his mouth shut. David wants to stay in prison so that he can get the $10 million.

Miles/Marty. Miles says that they can take their time but they will share a bed.

Adriana/Thalia/Tate—Thalia says that she didn’t mean to upset Tate. She soon leaves. Tate says that he is jumpy and suspicious. Adriana wants to know why he is so paranoid. Tate wants to know if she is suspicious of him. She says “Actually, I am.”

Scene 5

Thalia/Antonio… Antonio tells her that he saw Jess. He wants to hate Jess but he still loves her.

Jess/Nash… Jess doesn’t want to hurt Antonio.

Adriana says that she is suspicious of everyone. She mentions Dorian and her stalker plot. He wonders if she forgave Dorian. She says yes, that there is a lot of Dorian in her both good and bad. He asks her out. She says yes.

John visits Marty. Miles takes his shirt off and then opens the door. Miles says, “My wife and I are kind of busy.” He closes the door.

Scene 6
Nash/Jessica--Nash says that they are both flat on their backs in bed so it isn't a good time to ask for a divorce.

Thalia/Antonio—Thalia says Tate Harmon is a suspect because he shares a connection to the perpetrator, some baseball camp in Wyoming. Antonio wants to now why Harmon would be interested in Adriana.

Adriana/Tate—Adriana agrees to breakfast date only.

Dorian/Clint. Dorian thinks that she is striking out with trying to convince Clint not to call Bo and she is turning to leave when Clint stops her. Clint says, “This is not the worse thing (Asa) has ever done.” Dorian says that maybe she shouldn’t have said anything. Clint says that he is glad that she came to him because it shows that she cares, which is a good thing because he cares a lot about her. They start kissing. Dorian's phone rings. She offers to ignore it he says no and goes to get wine. Dorian answers and it is David. He is upset, says he had to trade off cigs to make the call and thanks to her he is about to be a free man and a poor one. Dorian hangs up on him. Clint has French wine. They resume their kiss.

Miles gets a call (he’s in bed) It is John. Miles checks the number and doesn’t answer. He pulls back the sheets for Marty. She tells him not to touch her.

Previews:
High school stuff with teens (Markko, Starr)
Miles/Marty
Cole/John
Adriana/Tate/Rex
Viki/Kirk

Once again, I thought Dorian and Clint were acting like they aren't a couple - up until the very end. I would love to have the director's take (or the actors') as to why it was played that way. Please refresh my memory: I thought David told Dorian about Asa's involvement when he was first arrested.

I agree with you Ginny. Something was off about the rhythm of the scenes. It could have been my typing while the scenes played but I came to the same conclusion. And yes, David did spill to Dorian about Asa following his arrest months ago.

So, I'm hoping that Dorian saying she had just found out (about Asa) won't be an issue. It's not your typing - they were playing the scenes in a very formal way. None of the usual up close touchy stuff.

He did tell her then, but it sounds better for Dorian if she claims she only found out recently. But Dorian's point about nothing coming from Asa's plot is valid - that wouldn't have changed no matter when Dorian originally found out. And, she sincerely doesn't want Clint to ruin his relationship with his father and waste what time Asa has left. (ETA: It may later become an issue because Clint said he was glad that Dorian came to tell him the info the minute she found out.)

Clint had conflicting outrage and concern for his father, and in trying to process it all he lashed out a little at Dorian. C/D are growing closer, but they're still in the beginning stages of their relationship where they're trying to learn about each other. They're mainly just dating, even though they've made love a couple of times. To me, they haven't gotten past the formal, polite stage quite yet. I think this may be the first tense issue specifically between C/D since they got back together - all the previous angst was worry over Jessica.

But I liked that Dorian talked/argued with him as an adult today, and listened to what he had to say. It seemed more of a discussion, in contrast to the ex usually telling Clint what to think.

Yeah, that's my guess--that the issue that she didn't come to him immediately after she learned of what Asa planned will be problematic. Clint also suspected that she was going to get a cut of the money. So, there is room for problems surrounding this issue.

That was pretty insulting. I'm surprised Dorian wasn't more upset with him.

Hmm well, what he suggested does sound like her. He's shooting from the hip with his thoughts because he's mostly upset with Asa, though Dorian is the brunt of it. My guess is that she to why she didn't react is because she was worried about this whole thing, especially how Clint was affected at the news. She also wouldn't want to put the spotlight on her if she is not being totally candid.

I am curious about the fact that only David, Dorian, Asa and now Clint know about Asa's murder for hire. It's a cover-up and I wonder what will fester from it.

It is a cover-up, but since David didn't actually do anything, it doesn't matter anymore that Asa paid him to kill Spencer. They could still be charged with conspiracy to commit murder, but tptb don't seem to follow through on details like that. The only way I could see it coming up again is if Asa was involved in Spencer's death some other way.

But why would Asa commit the murder himself if he wanted to keep his hands clean by hiring David to do it? Plus Asa can barely get around, and usually has someone hovering around him. I don't see him being the actual murderer, who was said to be in a violent rage since Spencer was so badly wounded.

You're absolutely right. Can you tell that I'm hungry for a story? A little murder and intrigue would do it. And I like secrets that fester and make folks all uncomfortable. I like when the audience knows and no one else does. So when Clint asked who else knows? I LOVED it because it is right up my alley. I want Asa to have something up his sleeves and I don't mean it turning out that David is a Buke. Tuc's not on the show anymore so it doesn't carry any lasting weight. I want something involving Asa to have reprecussions for years to come. Yes, I want a story that will involve lots of folks but most especially the core characters of Dorian and Clint; they are heads of core familes.

Well, I may not be absolutely right. :) To me, logically, I can't see Asa and David's plot coming up again in the story, but who knows what tptb will do. I don't believe that Asa killed Spencer, as some are speculating on other boards - not just because it doesn't fit the facts for me, but also because the show apparently filmed the flashback murder scenes after PC quit.

I wonder if Dorian fudging on when she learned about Asa & David will be a problem, but no one can contradict her but David. And Clint seems inclined to not believe David. Dorian had to point out why he should believe that David confirmed that Asa hired him. Who knows, but I agree I want to keep C/D in story.

I go back and forth on whether tptb will follow through on David being a Buchanan. So many posters expect it now, but there have been so many changes both on-air and behind the scenes since then. It may have been the plan months ago, but maybe not anymore - particularly with both PC and TW no longer permanent parts of the show. Unfortunately, too many posters follow spoilers like gospel - but until it actually airs on the show, spoilers don't really mean anything.

What I'm most interested in is why David would decide to leave town this time.

David will get some money from the Bukes, I predict. Not sure for what but if it comes his way and he sees that Dorian genuinely wants to be with Clint, I can't see him hanging around Llanview. David is a free spirit; I don't think that he should have the attachment of being a Buke, though he may be paid off for some other reason. I think it's entirely possible with PC gone that a lot has changed. I'm not convinced of much either until it airs. Lots of times, too, the spoilers are misleading.

It will be interesting to see if anything develops from this. There isn't much they can do about Asa's involvement since Phil Carey is off the show. I really don't see a reason for Asa to have had another child - not unless it becomes a big part of the show. And since Tuc isn't full time, it would really go anywhere. I'd rather see some of the established family members come back, like Cord and Kevin and Joey. But only if Joey can be played by Nathan Fillion. Yum.

I think the distance between Dorian and Clint that we talked about earlier was just to get us a little nervous before they moved in for the romance. forum.1111.gif

I was thinking along the same lines. David left last time because he didn't want to stay dependent on Dorian, especially since she wasn't going to take him back. What's driving David now is that Dorian cost him the $10 million payment. He's always been jealous of C/D, but this time he'll act on it because he's mad at Dorian.

There's the spoiler that David will eventually save Jessica. This could mean that they find out David is family, but Jessica would also have to be re-Buch'ed and I'm not sure tptb are going to do that (they haven't settled on Nash's family, if he has any in town, and I think Clint is still a possibility). Then again, you don't have to be related to be a donor match, like Antonio was. Perhaps the Buchanans compensate David for saving Jessica and he then leaves town, all the while viewers are waiting for the Buchanan reveal that never comes. I'd give the reveal a small chance still, because tptb spoiled it in the new year previews, but I'm more inclined to think it won't happen because it won't have any lasting impression now.

I know Kevin (DG) is slated to come back for Asa's funeral, but I'd also like to see Joey and Cord - just to see Jerry's Clint interact with them, there may never be another chance. I don't think any of the special returns will actually stay after the funeral, unfortunately.

ETA: I don't think Clint will be on for the rest of the week, based on spoilers (though I hope I'm wrong), but Dorian will be on at least Friday helping Starr get ready for the prom. Friday is also the start of the musical episodes.

I was thinking of the Bukes. I got a little sad today with mention of Asa since I know PC is gone. I am an Asa fan but I am not entirely surprised by the turn of events. Asa's death will really shake Clint to his core. Dorian will be there for him but it would be nice for him to have some other Buke men around besides Bo. There is still a chance for David to be a Buke and no he doesn't have to be related to Jess to be a donor. I just don't like it because I like David being a free agent and what's the point? I would like to see Clint with the other Bukes, too. I posted a new Take 12 (my recorder isn't working or I'd have today's eppy). I was thinking of the Buchanan men. I wish they had not killed Duke or sent Kevin away to London. But, I'm going to look forward to whatever is planned. We have a new headwriter.

I really don't like that soaps kill off characters - characters that we have cared about, or are supposed to care about; people's family members. I wasn't watching when Duke died, so I don't really know how important it was to the storyline, but it seems wrong that another Buchanan loses a son.

How long is the musical going to last? I'm already tired of it.

I agree about killing off core characters, though I have danced with the hope of them killing off Adriana--I don't dislike her as much as I used to though. But to kill off the next generation of any core family is troubling so I'll keep her. What was the name of Bo's son? oooh Drew. I hated when he died, too. About the musical, Gin you make me laugh. I don't know how long it will be going.

The preview we got a few days ago was enough for me. Kristen Alderson has a nice voice, but IMO it takes her a while to warm up (I'm thinking of her on the OLMV cd). The dancing, also IMO, is lame. One problem with the dancing is that the set is too small for all those people.

On an up note: I love the current banner.

Thank you, Gin. I'll leave it up for awhile just for you.

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